tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post5024459693263442542..comments2009-06-20T12:18:17.488-07:00LostySmurfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16191436352752879766noreply@blogger.comBlogger187125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-67198449489143003862009-06-20T12:18:17.488-07:002009-06-20T12:18:17.488-07:00Well, I have one more theory about the transfer via Pala.<br /><br />d) Pearl station is a qualify-task, those who fail are shipped home after brainwashed in room 23 at the Hydra, qualifiers get their new assignments. <br />Everyone has to go to the Pala in case only 1 of the team member qualifies.<br /><br />I base that on DI-leaders seems to think that human life may be sacrificed. (Giving up the body of Paul, voting Sayid&#39;s execution over a cup of coffee, have peaople drill in a known dangerous enviroment, etc.) <br /><br />GunnieGunniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08024499382442765077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-20104267742890860782009-06-20T07:56:38.098-07:002009-06-20T07:56:38.098-07:00Hi Gunnie,<br /><br />I agree with your observations about the Hydra. But regarding Sayid&#39;s smoke signal, I wouldn&#39;t be too sure that it&#39;s really East. Even though they were heading North, they aren&#39;t heaing North all the time but use the easiest way according to the terrain.<br /><br />I had this discussion about the Pearl people using the Pala Ferry to get back to the Barracks some time ago (during season 3, I think) and there could be several reasons for it:<br /> a) There are more than one Pala Ferry docks for inter-island transfer.<br /> b) The sonic fence could be a reason<br /> c) The Pearl people where the guinea pigs of an experiment and it could be part of it to obfuscate the real location of the barracks to avoid them conveniently hiking back for e.g. lunch break.<br />So I wouldn&#39;t consider the information from the Pearl orientation video as a real issue...LostySmurfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16191436352752879766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-52554055313864541482009-06-10T08:37:41.893-07:002009-06-10T08:37:41.893-07:00Hi agian LS!<br /><br />Forgot one thing.<br /><br />The Pala ferry is supposed to be on westcoast, but when Michael leads Jack, James, Hurley and Kate into the trap, they see Sayid&#39;s smokesignal to the east. <br /><br />(I&#39;m guessing it&#39;s a production error). <br /><br />Yet in the Pearl orientation video, the observers are told to go to the Pala Ferry after their tour of duty, to be transported back to the barracks. <br /><br />This would be a ridiculous route, since we know the Barracks are only a short walk away.<br /><br />GunnieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-5471226044215738872009-06-10T08:05:53.182-07:002009-06-10T08:05:53.182-07:00My mistake, Hydra is obviously not on the southern part of the island. <br /><br />About the Hydra...<br />I&#39;m confident that it is about 1 km north/northwest of the main island.<br /><br />Ajira 316 is heading for Guam. A straight flightpath from LAX is 235 deg. <br />We already know that it&#39;s a good idea to arrive the island heading 305 deg. When the white flash fades, we see the aircraft leveling out from a right turn.<br />I suppose they are heading 305 now.<br /><br />Lapidus banks the airplane right to avoid mountain ahead, (we get a glimps of the ocean to right and in front of the aircraft as it turns), then banks left into the valley and he spots &quot;James LeFleur international airport&quot; 11 o&#39;clock.<br /><br />Their heading should be west/northwest now, turning left to align with the runway.<br /><br />GunnieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-47519910236872929342009-06-08T13:36:44.008-07:002009-06-08T13:36:44.008-07:00Hi Gunnie,<br /><br />thanks a lot for your input. I&#39;ll rewatch the scenes you mentioned and I agree with your conclusion about the Dharma stations being in the southern part (well, except for the Hydra).LostySmurfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16191436352752879766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-80085448872375073752009-06-06T05:50:42.931-07:002009-06-06T05:50:42.931-07:00Hi!<br /><br />I have to disagree about the location of the stations.<br /><br />When the helicopter is returning to the island after the freighter was blown up, we see the light-beam from the Orchid (when Ben turned the wheel) right in front of the helicopter. The Orchid also appears to be located in the midle of a large crater.<br /> <br />Since they are heading 305 degrees, the Orchid should be south/southeast on the island.<br /><br />When it comes to distances: Hurley, Miles and dr Chang travels from the Orchid to Swan-site in aprox 4 minutes and their speed is approx 30 - 40 km/h = distance between 2 and 2,7 km.<br /><br />We also know that the statue is very close to the Orchid-site, Jin, James, Juliet and Miles saw it when Locke turned the wheel.<br /><br />In 1977 James hid Jack, Kate and Hurley up at the northpoint, obviously as far away from any Dharma-people.<br /><br />I&#39;m guessing that the Dharma stations are all within the southern part of the Island<br /><br />GunnieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-66449516866908100302009-04-11T01:09:00.000-07:002009-04-11T01:09:00.000-07:00Hey guys,<BR/><BR/>Jim, thanks for your input. I agree that the Hydra cannot be placed south of the island. But I don't think it has to be completely north of it either (i.e. at the top of the map).<BR/><BR/>Lee, you're right, the scale isn't working the way it's done.LostySmurfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16191436352752879766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-19459837852732002192009-04-10T11:19:00.000-07:002009-04-10T11:19:00.000-07:00I feel like the scale might be way to small. moving around in jungle terrain is incredible slow and difficult.<BR/><BR/>The first thing I noticed was that desmonds boat is almost 6 miles from the swan. that means that when desmond followed Kelvin to the boat and kills him (live together die alone) the travel 6 miles, fight, and desmond gets back to the swan in just over 108. That would make him an freak'n track star. <BR/><BR/>this is just one example. but I do think the eniter island is much smaller than depicted on the map.Lee Terrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-71907159963181373552009-03-25T08:23:00.000-07:002009-03-25T08:23:00.000-07:00Greetings,<BR/><BR/>First, it's a really nice map.<BR/><BR/>In S05E09, Ben, while standing next to an outrigger canoe on Hydra, tells Sun and Frank that there's a dock one-half mile south that leads to the place he used to live. That puts Hydra north of the Island. The dock Frank and Sun end up at is the one Juliet, Roger, Ben, <I>et. al.</I> used to walk from the <I>Galaga</I> to dry land. This idea fits with placing the sub dock into that cove generally north of the Barracks.<BR/><BR/>Hope this was useful.<BR/><BR/>8) JimJim in Georgiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08956968206982674546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-72081085216092078062009-03-17T21:20:00.000-07:002009-03-17T21:20:00.000-07:00anon,<BR/><BR/>He ran.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-47115977597556671662009-03-17T08:32:00.000-07:002009-03-17T08:32:00.000-07:00how could desmond have made it from the swan to his boat, to then fight kelvin, and make it back in time?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-10303105587756342532008-11-05T14:12:00.000-08:002008-11-05T14:12:00.000-08:00Hey guys,<BR/><BR/>sorry for the late reply and thanks for the support, Mikes ('Mike' Mike some posts above and 'TheLostMap' Mike :) ).<BR/><BR/>Andrew,<BR/>I think Mike already answered your Hydra question very well. I think Sayid could very easily pass Desmond's boat without seeing it from the cliff (also see <A HREF="http://lostmaplocations.blogspot.com/2006/12/desmonds-boat.html" REL="nofollow">Desmond's boat</A> entry on locations page). And why was Desmond's boast close to the Other's fake camp? Nevertheless, it could be located somewhere else.<BR/><BR/>Mike,<BR/>thanks a lot for helping out with answering questions! I didn't managed to follow up your discussion with Q on <A HREF="http://thelostmap.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">your site</A> and I also owe him a comment on his map. Time is just running too fast at the moment...<BR/><BR/>I'm very sorry about the lack of updates and the big delay in replying to comments but I'm currently in a very exhausting (and time consuming) 'Death march' project at work... And btw, this isn't meant as a cheap excuse but just to inform you that I haven't lost interest in Lost island mapping!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your patience.<BR/>LSLostySmurfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16191436352752879766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-27541231780640361412008-11-05T03:39:00.000-08:002008-11-05T03:39:00.000-08:00Andrew,<BR/>I'm sorry if I mislead you. This is not my map, I just thought I would clear up any questions. Lost Island Map is by LostySmurf. In other words, You will have to ask Losty about the position of different items on his map.TheLostMaphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00387139620208720984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-8758203418313422922008-11-04T21:57:00.000-08:002008-11-04T21:57:00.000-08:00Indeed - I got the hydra and the looking glass mixed up. I realised soon after posting. Also I was referring to the beach being to sayids rght meaning sea and beach (ie. jungle to left) - so agreed he walked South!. in that case where is the cable and the looking glass in the map? This leaves a very little bit of beach befoe reaching Desmond's boat?Andrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14130869261623266618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-38350928306397782542008-11-04T13:40:00.000-08:002008-11-04T13:40:00.000-08:00Andrew,<BR/>I believe Sayid traveled south with the beach on his left side. The cable was used to reach the Looking Glass, not the Hydra. The Hydra was accessed only by boat as far as we know.TheLostMaphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00387139620208720984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-40560453954280842162008-11-04T12:16:00.000-08:002008-11-04T12:16:00.000-08:00Lostysmurf<BR/><BR/>i know you have looked into this in great detail, and I must say a great map. I do however have a query about the location of danielle's camp in relation to the hydra. In the first season, Sayid headed off with the beach to his right and came across the cable whch lead him to danielle's camp. The cable also goes directly to the hydra from the same point. If this were the case, then Sayid would have come across desmond's boat on the way there. Also while there was no indication of the time taken to get to danielle's camp from the cable on the beach - as it stands, it seems like a very long walk to get to her camp - Trying to remember...was Desmond's boat not very close to the fake other's camp? thoughts?<BR/><BR/>Andrew<BR/><BR/>AndrewAndrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14130869261623266618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-28618098979294612162008-10-27T04:53:00.000-07:002008-10-27T04:53:00.000-07:00It dosesn't mean anything everything is so confused. They didn't even dare place the season 4stations. A lame piece of work if you want my opinion. So LostySmurf stick with your own map chart, yours has nothing to be ashamed of(^=^)/Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-37721355418549263422008-10-27T00:16:00.000-07:002008-10-27T00:16:00.000-07:00http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29143]<BR/><BR/>I think this one is more up todate, look at the stations...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-39993831258459769542008-07-08T08:49:00.000-07:002008-07-08T08:49:00.000-07:00i need the posision of island in the map for found the island i try to found but i see only membata and nothing alse close to that if someone new where is it just tell mep3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-53801978703246467522008-05-24T12:12:00.000-07:002008-05-24T12:12:00.000-07:00I'm not sure. Probably somewhere close to the 'C4' station...LostySmurfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16191436352752879766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-71151111645450926862008-05-24T11:49:00.000-07:002008-05-24T11:49:00.000-07:00Where is the looking glass stationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-25363194194764839742008-05-20T13:05:00.000-07:002008-05-20T13:05:00.000-07:00No, sorry.LostySmurfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16191436352752879766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-65794614833140378182008-05-20T12:04:00.000-07:002008-05-20T12:04:00.000-07:00can i buy a print of this map?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-85781111293626828732008-05-18T04:26:00.000-07:002008-05-18T04:26:00.000-07:00Thanks Mike!LostySmurfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16191436352752879766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2184725200514840218.post-91928087506539329642008-05-16T19:30:00.000-07:002008-05-16T19:30:00.000-07:00hey losty,<BR/><BR/>The plan view is here:<BR/><BR/>http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9905/cabinmap1pd0.pngTheLostMaphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00387139620208720984noreply@blogger.com